Constructing a circle relative to another circle

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I would really appreciate some help on a geometry challenge I am facing. I don't expect the answer but rather some guidance on how to get there and the best method to use.

The problem I am facing is captured in the figure below:

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Let us first consider Case 1:

I am given a black circle. I know the central co-ordinates of the circle (x,y) and I know it's radius. I am then given two red points on the circumference of the black circle, which are 180° apart. I know the co-ordinates of these points too. I am then given a third red point that lies within the black circle, some distance along it's radius (in this case 0.5r along). I know the co-ordinates of this point as well.

The challenge: I need to construct a new circle, i.e. the blue one. The conditions of this circle are that it's circumference must pass precisely through the centre of all three red points. My assumption is that I need to find the blue circle's central co-ordinates and radius, but I have no idea how. Can anyone please advise how to go about this?

Let us also consider Case 2:

This is the same problem except that the red point within the black circle lies further along it's radius. The two red points are still on it's circumference and are still 180° apart; this will always be the case. Once again the challenge is to construct the new, i.e. blue circle. I can see that this circle will be smaller, and it seems reasonable that the further the red point on the black radius reaches the edge of the radius, the closer the blue circle gets to the original black one.
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I will face other such scenarios where the inner red point on the black radius is at other lengths along it, so knowing the best method to solve the problem is really what I am after. Any guidance would be really appreciated and please let me know if anything is unclear?

N.B. The sketch is a rough approximation so please forgive any inaccuracies in lining up the points and lines.
 
I would really appreciate some help on a geometry challenge I am facing. I don't expect the answer but rather some guidance on how to get there and the best method to use.

The problem I am facing is captured in the figure below:

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Let us first consider Case 1:

I am given a black circle. I know the central co-ordinates of the circle (x,y) and I know it's radius. I am then given two red points on the circumference of the black circle, which are 180° apart. I know the co-ordinates of these points too. I am then given a third red point that lies within the black circle, some distance along it's radius (in this case 0.5r along). I know the co-ordinates of this point as well.

The challenge: I need to construct a new circle, i.e. the blue one. The conditions of this circle are that it's circumference must pass precisely through the centre of all three red points. My assumption is that I need to find the blue circle's central co-ordinates and radius, but I have no idea how. Can anyone please advise how to go about this?

Let us also consider Case 2:

This is the same problem except that the red point within the black circle lies further along it's radius. The two red points are still on it's circumference and are still 180° apart; this will always be the case. Once again the challenge is to construct the new, i.e. blue circle. I can see that this circle will be smaller, and it seems reasonable that the further the red point on the black radius reaches the edge of the radius, the closer the blue circle gets to the original black one.
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I will face other such scenarios where the inner red point on the black radius is at other lengths along it, so knowing the best method to solve the problem is really what I am after. Any guidance would be really appreciated and please let me know if anything is unclear?

N.B. The sketch is a rough approximation so please forgive any inaccuracies in lining up the points and lines.

If you want to derive a formula yourself, you can use this labeled diagram:

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You know r and d; you can write an equation to solve to find x, the radius of the new circle. From that, you can find how far the center of the new circle is from the old (OD = x - d).

To find D itself, I would then use vectors.
 
Thanks guys, I found centre of the new circle by creating cords between the red points, finding their perpendicular bisectors and then taking the point of intersection. The radius is then clearly apparent. This problem was a lot easier to solve than initially anticipated!

Many thanks for your help.
 
Thanks guys, I found centre of the new circle by creating cords between the red points, finding their perpendicular bisectors and then taking the point of intersection. The radius is then clearly apparent. This problem was a lot easier to solve than initially anticipated!

Many thanks for your help.
That's actually how I constructed the circle in my diagram. I was assuming you wanted a coordinate approach, not a compass construction, or I would have mentioned it!
 
That's actually how I constructed the circle in my diagram. I was assuming you wanted a coordinate approach, not a compass construction, or I would have mentioned it!
I didn't use a compass I used the co-ordinates of the red points to calculate the chords between them as vectors. I then found the perpendicular bisectors as vectors and scaled them to find the intersect. But it's very useful to know other methods so thanks for the help!
 
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